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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Awards Page Dropped From Google Results</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://ciarannorris.co.uk/2008/06/12/why-doesnt-the-guardian-like-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-5471</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Victor,

I totally understand about the Trust and it&#039;s one of the things I like most about The Guardian. Seeing my comment in the letters today I worry that I sounded too harsh. I guess it&#039;s because I&#039;m such a fan of the paper, and particularly the Tech section. In fact I seem to have spent all of my time since posting this commenting on other blogs in The Guardian&#039;s defence.

Anyway - thanks for taking the time to add your thoughts.

Cheers,

Ciarán

PS - if you want a hand with your blog... (although I could probably do with SEOing this site more - the cobbler&#039;s shoes and all that)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Victor,</p>
<p>I totally understand about the Trust and it&#8217;s one of the things I like most about The Guardian. Seeing my comment in the letters today I worry that I sounded too harsh. I guess it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m such a fan of the paper, and particularly the Tech section. In fact I seem to have spent all of my time since posting this commenting on other blogs in The Guardian&#8217;s defence.</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; thanks for taking the time to add your thoughts.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Ciarán</p>
<p>PS &#8211; if you want a hand with your blog&#8230; (although I could probably do with SEOing this site more &#8211; the cobbler&#8217;s shoes and all that)</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Keegan</title>
		<link>http://ciarannorris.co.uk/2008/06/12/why-doesnt-the-guardian-like-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-5468</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor Keegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for those interesting comments. Personally, I am not against SEO. I wish I had more skills in that direction myself: my blog might get into double figures. . .

The subtext of my article was that the influence of SEO on Google  could create a gap for stuff that gets crowded out in the results by SEO which a different kind of search engine might capitalise on.

Cheers

Vic

The Guardian

PS: Nothing unusual about about different approaches by management and editorial on the Guardian (or between journalists) We are owned by a trust that protects editorial freedom, including the right to disagree with colleagues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for those interesting comments. Personally, I am not against SEO. I wish I had more skills in that direction myself: my blog might get into double figures. . .</p>
<p>The subtext of my article was that the influence of SEO on Google  could create a gap for stuff that gets crowded out in the results by SEO which a different kind of search engine might capitalise on.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Vic</p>
<p>The Guardian</p>
<p>PS: Nothing unusual about about different approaches by management and editorial on the Guardian (or between journalists) We are owned by a trust that protects editorial freedom, including the right to disagree with colleagues</p>
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		<title>By: Guardian denounces SEO, loses market leadership to Telegraph due to SEO &#124; SEOptimise</title>
		<link>http://ciarannorris.co.uk/2008/06/12/why-doesnt-the-guardian-like-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-5480</link>
		<dc:creator>Guardian denounces SEO, loses market leadership to Telegraph due to SEO &#124; SEOptimise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]   Recently Ciaran Norris wrote a thorough piece on how the Guardian basically denounces SEO as scams and fails to grasp the whole concept of it, while facing the Google monopoly with all it&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://ciarannorris.co.uk/2008/06/12/why-doesnt-the-guardian-like-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-5470</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@TravelSEO - I realise that the headline would give the impression, but if you read the article you&#039;ll realise that isn&#039;t actually my complete view - however there were several articles in a short space of time which could have been more positive.

As I point out, Jemima actually wrote a very balanced piece, and Bobbie&#039;s comments also show that it&#039;s not a paper-wide thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@TravelSEO &#8211; I realise that the headline would give the impression, but if you read the article you&#8217;ll realise that isn&#8217;t actually my complete view &#8211; however there were several articles in a short space of time which could have been more positive.</p>
<p>As I point out, Jemima actually wrote a very balanced piece, and Bobbie&#8217;s comments also show that it&#8217;s not a paper-wide thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Travel SEO</title>
		<link>http://ciarannorris.co.uk/2008/06/12/why-doesnt-the-guardian-like-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-5469</link>
		<dc:creator>Travel SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of interesting points, but it&#039;s wrong to assume that because a writer or columnist expresses a view, that is the view of the newspaper.

We should encourage newspapers to allow a variety of opinions among their writers. The alternative is far worse: writers who are told what to write by their editors or proprietors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of interesting points, but it&#8217;s wrong to assume that because a writer or columnist expresses a view, that is the view of the newspaper.</p>
<p>We should encourage newspapers to allow a variety of opinions among their writers. The alternative is far worse: writers who are told what to write by their editors or proprietors.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Inman</title>
		<link>http://ciarannorris.co.uk/2008/06/12/why-doesnt-the-guardian-like-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-5467</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Inman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why Doesn’t The Guardian Like SEO?&quot;

The short answer: because I terrified them with my tricky payday loans. My payday loan anchor texts are out to eat your children and steal your women.  Run for your liiiiives!</description>
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<p>The short answer: because I terrified them with my tricky payday loans. My payday loan anchor texts are out to eat your children and steal your women.  Run for your liiiiives!</p>
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		<title>By: Ciaran</title>
		<link>http://ciarannorris.co.uk/2008/06/12/why-doesnt-the-guardian-like-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-5478</link>
		<dc:creator>Ciaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that anyone in the industry was in any way unsure of what happened to GoCompare - what&#039;s amazing is that you only need to look at most of the other sites that are ranking for those phrases to find exactly the same tactics at work.

I&#039;d be interested to know who you work for Gawpus, and how you think you might go about educating/converting those who don&#039;t see the benefit in what you/we do (in my last role my biggest task was organising training for hundreds of journalists so that they; 1 - understood that SEO is not a dirty word and; 2 implemented it in their online work).

I do appreciate however that you may not feel able to disclose that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that anyone in the industry was in any way unsure of what happened to GoCompare &#8211; what&#8217;s amazing is that you only need to look at most of the other sites that are ranking for those phrases to find exactly the same tactics at work.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to know who you work for Gawpus, and how you think you might go about educating/converting those who don&#8217;t see the benefit in what you/we do (in my last role my biggest task was organising training for hundreds of journalists so that they; 1 &#8211; understood that SEO is not a dirty word and; 2 implemented it in their online work).</p>
<p>I do appreciate however that you may not feel able to disclose that.</p>
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		<title>By: gawsapus</title>
		<link>http://ciarannorris.co.uk/2008/06/12/why-doesnt-the-guardian-like-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-5477</link>
		<dc:creator>gawsapus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ps: regarding the Jemima Kiss article &gt; GoCompare got penalized because a little bird told google that they where buying too many links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ps: regarding the Jemima Kiss article &gt; GoCompare got penalized because a little bird told google that they where buying too many links.</p>
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